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Perhaps it is one of those celebrity mysteries that are destined never to be uncovered.

A similar thing happened to me some years back - Chris Tarrant, 'Who want to be a Millionaire' presenter, broadcast and former DJ is rumoured to be an accomplished radio amateur, holding a class A licence similar to myself. His callsign entry is withheld in the reference books as is his discretion but it is fabled he is still active in the hobby. He actually lives a few houses away from my brother and I have bumped into him two or three times in a local curry house, but have never had the courage to ask him about it.

Then there is of course the legend of Bob Holness, actor and presenter (the first ever voice of James Bond) being the saxophonist on Gerry Rafferty's 'Baker Street' but no one is able to confirm or deny it.

Funny coves these celebrity types ;o)







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Sat May 20 2006 4:51PM | MsgID: 4270112


His name is listed on chessbase.com, but no record of games.

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Originally posted by: "Paul Georghiou"
Thank you your marquiship, but I'm not sure it adds to the sum of intelligence on the matter. It is claimed he is a chess master in various places but similar spurious claims have been made about other people.

What I would really hope to find is evidence of where and when he played, game scores, tournament results, and how he got to such a high level, if it is him. In a 100 game match with world number 1 Topalov, he would be expected to score 8 points. You don't get to that level with a few games at school chess club in the lunchbreak!




Not sure how the FIDE system works, but would it not have a record of his full name and date of birth? If these two match and with the other reference provided here, surely it is more than a coincidence?

I must admit, with my limited knowledge of these matters, I would be interested to see a few games of his. Perhaps chess took a sideline to his many other interests which he does with such aplomb.

Quite extraordinary if it is true.







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Sat May 20 2006 3:24PM | edited: 4:49:03 | MsgID: 4269523


Gee, nobody can do a Google search? You're as bad as some of the people I meet at the library! 🤣

"A concert flautist and champion boxer, a chess master with a genius IQ, a tap dancer whose grace and athleticism have brought a string of World Championships as well as a Guinness Book world record for tapping speed."

I also checked chessgames.com for game records, but nothing there. Not too surprising, as he's not an IM or GM.


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Thank you your marquiship, but I'm not sure it adds to the sum of intelligence on the matter. It is claimed he is a chess master in various places but similar spurious claims have been made about other people.

What I would really hope to find is evidence of where and when he played, game scores, tournament results, and how he got to such a high level, if it is him. In a 100 game match with world number 1 Topalov, he would be expected to score 8 points. You don't get to that level with a few games at school chess club in the lunchbreak!







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Sat May 20 2006 1:37PM | edited: 1:39:33 | MsgID: 4268890


I think you will find he is one and the same.

Michael Ryan Flatley, b. 1959 Chicago, Illinois is listed at www.imdb.com as being a 'chess master' as well as playing the flute to concert level.

Funny old world, really.

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Does anyone have any information about the supposed chess activities of Michael Flatley, the man behind 'Riverdance' and 'Lord of the Dance'.

There is a Michael Flatley with a rating of 2395 on the Fide Rating List. Is this really him? 2395 is IM strength!

I read somewhere that Michael Flatley the dancer played a string of tournaments one year reaching 'master strength' but in the US that means 2200. I note that 'both' Michael Flatley's were born in 1958. So it seems it might well be him.

But several questions remain unanswered. Firstly 2395 is extremely strong and impossible with a casual approach, unless you are Capablanca. You need a seriously honed opening repertoire and several years of tournament experience. A 2395 would beat GMs on a regular basis.

Also I can find no references to his tournament play on the net. Neither can I find any references of the 'I played the famous Michael Flatley in a tournament last week'. Also he has zero games in 'Big Database 2005' which is very strange for a player with that rating.

So is this really him? If so can anyone explain how he became so strong. And does anyone have any game scores? Thanks.







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