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  Black Friday




thewelshboy

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Wales
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Thu Nov 28 2019 5:33AM | MsgID: 19796563


According to a Which report recently published the same deal on Black Friday is offered at various stages throughout the year.

So no change with White.







bwzins64

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Wed Nov 27 2019 10:09PM | MsgID: 19796559


Originally posted by: "Taotaomonas"
Maybe they should call it 'Fools Mate Friday'...... As they will offer you same gambit the following Monday at even less cost and see if you can be tempted again.




I participated in Black Friday once, about 15 years ago. I wanted to get a pull behind golf cart for my brother-in-law, and a store had some at a "good" price. They were in green and gold, the colors of the Packers, and my brother-in-law was a life long fan. (The golf season was over, so I don't know why I was worried they would sell out.) So, I stood outside the store for about half-an-hour in the cold before they opened the doors. I got my golf cart, but then I went back a few days later, and like you said, they still had a pallet full of them left to sell.

But it's crazy sometimes. People have been seriously hurt after getting trampled over by other customers rushing to get what they want.







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Tue Nov 26 2019 6:06PM | MsgID: 19796543


Originally posted by: "bwzins64"
Tongue in cheek...in honor of "Black Friday" perhaps Black should be granted the first move?!




Maybe they should call it 'Fools Mate Friday'...... As they will offer you same gambit the following Monday at even less cost and see if you can be tempted again.







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Poland
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Tue Nov 26 2019 6:11AM | edited: 6:28:51 | MsgID: 19796538


I Understand that the original setter of the thread wasn't asking a question but an explanation on why Black or White goes first is perhaps necessary.

White moving first is a convention which became a rule. It didn't really catch on until the mid-19th Century. I believe London 1851 (where Anderssen's triumph established him as the world's top player, before there was a "Championship") was the first event to include this as part of the official rules (it is more remembered for its other important new rule - time limits with clocks). Until then - and even after, in much of the world - players in matches just alternated the first move of each game between White and Black, the same player keeping each color for the whole match. You can see this in early chess books and publications.

Probably publishing had something to do with it, too, as diagrams were beginning to appear in newspapers and books. Usually game scores were collected with just the names of the players, like Boden vs Barton, since it didn't matter what the color was. But publishers like standards, so positions quickly were presented with White from the bottom and listed as moving first - even if the first player had actually played the Black pieces in the live game.

At the least, this conditioned the public for the convention and rule that White moves first.

Conventions like this just simplify things by setting a common standard. Ever noticed that pieces are referred to as White and Black but squares are generally labeled light or dark? There is no real reason for that, other to avoid possible confusion in discussing a position.







bwzins64

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Tue Nov 26 2019 2:29AM | MsgID: 19796531


Tongue in cheek...in honor of "Black Friday" perhaps Black should be granted the first move?!