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Taotaomonas

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Thu Feb 9 2017 1:55PM | edited: 1:56:55 | MsgID: 19550667


If you use the rating system on here it pays to take it as more of a guide to the 'type' of player they are rather than there actual ability. By that I mean that you will find many players who will have a rating that can easily fluctuate by 500 points or so over a relatively short space of time.

The more serious player seems to be within a constant range of say 2050 - 2300. Even within that 250 or so points difference, arguably the top end should be winning more often than the lower. But I would expect the games are much tighter, likely follow specific openings and variations both know, and possibly a fair few drawn games also.

Once you start to get over 2300+ the waters muddy again. There are obviously a good selection of genuine very high quality players who use all the legal means available and very much specialise in the pace, time and patience required for this style of chess. Many of these likely working their way up from the previous group and constantly improving over months if not years.

Doubtless there are also a lot of engine users out there also. I do not mean post game research but during, pointless and cheating but that is the nature of any competition.

Going back to type rather than ability then I personally lack the above skills to really ever be a consistently decent player on this site. Certain positions excite me, others bore me to tears. Some days chess feels like a good way to waste an hour, others I can just glance at the board for a few seconds and make what appears to be the appropriate move and often blunder.

Depends as Neilo stated also who I am playing. Peer pressure within groups we know here or in the real world can easily see my ability increase dramatically.

I think that those of you who play good quality CC consistently here. Have to accept that a lot of lower rated players you meet will have a seemingly varied skill level that is largely dependent on how they feel at the time + little to no research or tools they bother with. The latter being the more obvious reason why pure ability will only carry you so far in a game against the more solid serious CC player.







GraczNiejednoznaczne

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San Marino
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Thu Feb 9 2017 10:25AM | MsgID: 19550424


Too many games currently, as soon as I have the number dwindled down will forward a couple. Thanks for the offer.😊







neilo

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Thu Feb 9 2017 8:29AM | MsgID: 19550287


Originally posted by: "GraczNiejednoznaczne"
I often find myself wondering how opponents "500+" rating lower manage to keep up with the level of play for many moves then fall off in 3 moves.




I have recently played a game where my opponent's desire to keep a R lost him his Q & that R & then the game.
His rating's 300+ below mine & that wasn't his only mistake - he made one other significant one - but it was his catastrophic one. Nothing in his play suggested anything other than good chess up to that point, except that he failed to take advantage of a mistake of mine.
On the other board, I'm the one to have made the significant mistake & he has taken advantage of it.

I use the "Analyse" board, especially against my friends in our "needle" matches, & I have only very rarely been able to convince myself that an opponent is using a chess program, something that I think you are suggesting is quite widespread in games that you're playing.

I'm roughly 500 below your rating; perhaps we should have a game & I think you may realise that moves made by players with my rating can be reactive or, as I sometimes find in games v. players with much higher ratings, my play seems reasonable until I make that fatal error. 😊







GraczNiejednoznaczne

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San Marino
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Wed Feb 8 2017 12:24PM | MsgID: 19548641


Maybe, but that is only your own view!







bwzins64

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Wed Feb 8 2017 7:29AM | edited: 7:43:52 | MsgID: 19548254


Originally posted by: "GraczNiejednoznaczne"
I often find myself wondering how opponents "500+" rating lower manage to keep up with the level of play for many moves then fall off in 3 moves.




Perhaps they reached the end of their opening book. Perhaps they were following a grandmaster's game. Perhaps they reached the end of the analysis of their own finished games.

Edit: You've posted several similar statements in the past. Perhaps you should limit your complains to the 'HelpDesk' where they belong.







ketchuplover

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Tue Feb 7 2017 3:51PM | MsgID: 19546977


Perhaps their minds can only keep things straight for a shorter time.







GraczNiejednoznaczne

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San Marino
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Tue Feb 7 2017 8:05AM | MsgID: 19546352


I often find myself wondering how opponents "500+" rating lower manage to keep up with the level of play for many moves then fall off in 3 moves.