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  Is 'play through' technically cheating?




AsceticKingK9

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Poland
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Thu Jun 13 2019 6:04AM | edited: 8:34:48 | MsgID: 19793549


Originally posted by: "Reyn"
Yes, using a database is okay with correspondence chess.

Even if you consult a book or a database, you still have to make the final decision yourself as to what move to make. This goes for the use of our Analysis board as well.

The bottom line is that it is NOT okay to have a computer, or anybody else, make move choices for you.

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Although much of what is outlined above has value couldn't you also say that when using a chess engine an option is available whether to use the move provided or not??

My way of looking at the chess engine unfairness is most players on this site do not use them because they take away the fun aspect of the game making them pretty pointless when playing.

Therefore chess engine use is both unfair to you during a game i.e. it removes the personal enjoyment of the game, and to your opponents when even the most basic chess engine now has the capacity to far outplay the strongest of players.

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AsceticKingK9

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Poland
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Mon Jun 10 2019 5:45PM | MsgID: 19793483


My way of looking at chess opening database is that they are fairly harmless in the aspect of only teaching someone about Openings(they can be called cheating chess if that is your desire) However anyone who understands the basic principle will also appreciate the fact that Chess has 3 phases the opening, the middlegame and the endgame, each with their own dominion.







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Canada
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Sat Jun 8 2019 12:36AM | edited: 12:43:42 | MsgID: 19793381


Yes, using a database is okay with correspondence chess.

Check our Terms and Conditions at:

Help ... Terms and Conditions ... MEMBER ASSISTANCE AND FAIR PLAY ... "Moral and fair External assistance".

Even if you consult a book or a database, you still have to make the final decision yourself as to what move to make. This goes for the use of our Anaysis board as well.

The bottom line is that it is NOT okay to have a computer, or anybody else, make move choices for you.

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drakenstein

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Netherlands
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Fri Jun 7 2019 3:39PM | MsgID: 19793379


Originally posted by: "Earl of Norfolk"
No it's not cheating. This is the successor to postal chess, where you can play through various possibilities before committing to a move. The only real cheating here is using a computer to make your moves.




I understand that using a chess-engine is considered as cheating, but what about consulting an online openings-database?
So far I resisted that temptation, but if consulting such a database is considered as a fair way to play the opening I would like to know that for sure.
thx in advance







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Mon Oct 29 2018 6:45AM | edited: 6:52:41 | MsgID: 19788746


Originally posted by: "2pieR"
I've been in Chessworld for pretty much 14 years and on most games I use 'play through'.
Mainly to keep track of the moves I've made but also to try out a next move and the possible response moves of my opponent.
Now, going by my rating, I've clearly not gained any advantage from this facility, but is it cheating?
When you see the great chess players sitting opposite each other over a chess board they don't say: "Hang on a minute, I just want to play through the moves."
Or do they?
I do believe that on occasions they take a break and disappear into a back room to discuss possible scenarios with their advisers.
So I ask, have I been cheating or consulting with my advisers?




When I first started playing postal chess a million years ago, I read a book that suggested playing through your games before you make a move, just to get back in the "flow" of things. And even now, I do that if I feel kind of lost in the position currently on the board.







Earl of Norfolk

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Sun Oct 28 2018 11:20PM | MsgID: 19788744


No it's not cheating. This is the successor to postal chess, where you can play through various possibilities before committing to a move. The only real cheating here is using a computer to make your moves.







2pieR

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England
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Sun Oct 28 2018 12:17PM | MsgID: 19788729


I've been in Chessworld for pretty much 14 years and on most games I use 'play through'.
Mainly to keep track of the moves I've made but also to try out a next move and the possible response moves of my opponent.
Now, going by my rating, I've clearly not gained any advantage from this facility, but is it cheating?
When you see the great chess players sitting opposite each other over a chess board they don't say: "Hang on a minute, I just want to play through the moves."
Or do they?
I do believe that on occasions they take a break and disappear into a back room to discuss possible scenarios with their advisers.
So I ask, have I been cheating or consulting with my advisers?