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AsceticKingK9

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Wed Feb 5 2020 9:10AM | MsgID: 19798146


[Quote from: "Taotaomonas"]
[Quote from: "bwzins64"]
[Quote from: "Taotaomonas"]Your opponent played the same f6 move. f6 will provide both fun games and dangerous scenarios for white depending on ability.

1. d4 e5 2. dxe5 f6

An old friend on here taught me this. Talk you through it if you play OTB or Blitz



I would NEVER endorse the move f6 early in the game.



Do you know why it fails? Because of that stupid comparison that chess is like life I hate so much. Yet ironically here it is true. White jumps into exf6 and thinks even after Nxf6 life is rosey.




I feel the quick removal of a few unsavoury characters currently in my life would probably make me feel the same way.







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Wed Feb 5 2020 12:59AM | MsgID: 19798141


[Quote from: "bwzins64"]
[Quote from: "Taotaomonas"]Your opponent played the same f6 move. f6 will provide both fun games and dangerous scenarios for white depending on ability.

1. d4 e5 2. dxe5 f6

An old friend on here taught me this. Talk you through it if you play OTB or Blitz



I would NEVER endorse the move f6 early in the game.



I appreciate both your logic and ability way above my own in this form of chess. However as someone who plays OTB and Blitz I am telling you that this combination Do not care what any computer will tell you Works for black more than it fails. d4 e5 dxe5 f6 exf6 Nxf6

Do you know why it fails? Because of that stupid comparison that chess is like life I hate so much. Yet ironically here it is true. White jumps into exf6 and thinks even after Nxf6 life is rosey.

Follow it through in an analysed game and no doubt White probably scores a 99%+ win. Follow it through in life scenario and guess what. You just got played by the better long term plan







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Mon Feb 3 2020 7:44PM | MsgID: 19798107


Here's a well-known instructive example where an early ...f6 is quickly exploited:
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6 (Damiano's defense)

Now white can "sacrifice" the Knight:
3.Nxe5 fxe5 4.Qh5+ g6 5.Qxe5+ Qe7 6.Qxh8 etc...

(there are other lines here, but none are very good)







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Mon Feb 3 2020 7:41AM | edited: 8:04:10 | MsgID: 19798097


Originally posted by: "Taotaomonas"
Your opponent played the same f6 move. f6 will provide both fun games and dangerous scenarios for white depending on ability.

1. d4 e5 2. dxe5 f6

An old friend on here taught me this. Talk you through it if you play OTB or Blitz




I would NEVER endorse the move f6 early in the game.







Taotaomonas

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Sun Feb 2 2020 10:40PM | edited: 10:43:37 | MsgID: 19798085


Your opponent played the same f6 move. I agree with Bzwins that in this style of chess it is generally a disaster. However if you are playing OTB or Blitz where it is just pure chess brain and no time to pull out the books or analysis board. f6 will provide both fun games and dangerous scenarios for white depending on ability.

1. d4 e5 2. dxe5 f6

An old friend on here taught me this. Talk you through it if you play OTB or Blitz







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Sun Feb 2 2020 8:00PM | MsgID: 19798083


Thanks for feedback. As I stated in original post will learn. I just won a game with a similar Bishop - Queen combination after 14 moves.







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Sat Feb 1 2020 2:05AM | edited: 4:14:58 | MsgID: 19798009


2...h6 is a pointless move. There's no possible bishop pin; or knight to keep out of g5, so it's pointless. Don't waste your time on moves like that. Every move you make needs to have a good reason, if you want to play good chess. If you haven't read 'Logical Chess Move By Move' by Irving Chernev, I highly recommend it. If you have, read it again! 🙂

Edit:
To answer your first question, "Is this anything anyone is familiar with(?)"

1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 is the 'Bishop's Opening'. Probably a good opening for a beginner, as it's pretty straight forward. "Straight forward" meaning it's very tactical with little strategy. Your opponent played basically a 'Scholar's Mate', which would be part of the 'Bishop's Opening's' repertoire.







RageofKlugman

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Fri Jan 31 2020 2:36PM | MsgID: 19797965


Hello there. I'd say that playing the pawn to f6 early against 1. e4 is almost always risky - as you found to your cost, it weakens the e8-h5 diagonal and offers tempting possibilities for white to put the queen on h5. It can also make castling kingside problematic if white plonks a bishop on c4. Playing ...h6 in conjunction with ...f6 makes things much worse as the kingside white squares become very weak and you cannot then block the queen check on h5 with ...g6.

More generally, if you're going to meet 1. e4 with 1...e5, then you should focus on developing your pieces quickly. 2... h6 isn't a dreadful move on its own, but you would have been better off developing your king's bishop or one of the knights. Equally, after white played 3. Qf3, 3... Nf6 defends against the checkmate and gets a piece into play.







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Fri Jan 31 2020 10:09AM | MsgID: 19797952


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The perspective requested for annotations/comments: Hello all, to the best of my recollection I dont believe Ive played a game this short. When opponent brought Bishop into play I thought they were going to link it with a Knight and defended by blocking with Pawn accordingly. I didnt see the danger posed by Queen until it was too late.

Ill try and learn from this in future games but for now my questions are these - (1) Is this anything anyone is familiar with and (2) What could I have done differently?

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[Event "www.ChessWorld.net server game"]
[Site "www.ChessWorld.net "]
[Date "2020.1.31 "]
[Round "NA"]
[White "Mr Brightside"]
[Black "FightingFan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1626"]
[BlackElo "1328"]
[Board "11573643"]

1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. Bf1-c4 h7-h6 3. Qd1-f3 f7-f6 4. Qf3-h5 Ke8-e7 5. b2-b3 d7-d6 6. Qh5-f7 1-0



[[[1. e2e4 e7e5 2. Bf1c4 h7h6 3. Qd1f3 f7f6 4. Qf3h5 Ke7 5. b2b3 d7d6 6. Qh5f7 ]]]

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