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Ihaveagirlfriend

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Sat Mar 12 2011 11:29AM | MsgID: 14155216


Originally posted by: "TicklyTim"
will attempt to enter game here later (went a bit wrong)



Just use double square brackets - [[ ]]

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Fri Mar 11 2011 1:40PM | edited: 1:45:47 | MsgID: 14152394


will attempt to enter game here later (went a bit wrong)







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Fri Mar 11 2011 12:58PM | edited: 1:46:57 | MsgID: 14152265


Unfortunately not, but it's a good indication that the computer evaluation should perhaps be higher.
Hope you don't mind if I join you all by entering a game (once I can get it sussed).







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Fri Mar 11 2011 11:36AM | MsgID: 14152041


Originally posted by: "TicklyTim"
Regarding the N/R/R endgame after the pawn win:
Isn't it the case that it's a fairly simple win if you can get both the rooks swapped off?



Indeed! Is there a method for forcing their exchange, I wonder?







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Fri Mar 11 2011 10:16AM | edited: 10:17:32 | MsgID: 14151857


Regarding the N/R/R endgame after the pawn win:
Isn't it the case that it's a fairly simple win if you can get both the rooks swapped off?







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Thu Mar 10 2011 10:39AM | MsgID: 14148613


Originally posted by: "TicklyTim"

Was 10.Rb3 an attempt to swing the rook to the Kingside? Likewise, Bd2-Bc3?
Looks a bit premature and seemed to tie the pieces up. It's probably too obvious to say getting the Bf1 out and castling first and then seeing where to stick the pieces. Looks like you were maybe trying to do too much in the late opening early middlegame phase.



Bd2 was prophylaxis against black moving his b6 knight and then playing the freeing break a7-a5. Bc3 was an attempt to clamp down on e6-e5. I thought ..f6 was a bit weakening, but maybe not. Rb3 was a dual purpose move: to protect a future Bd3 (needed because otherwise c5 or e5 are possibly if the black queen is on d8) and to potentially attack the black kingside of he castled before getting in e5.

I spent too long on these moves and as a result later submitted to middlegame simplifications I felt were not the best, but which made it easier for me practically. But my time trouble eventually caught me out and I missed a win on move 30 with Bg4.

Thanks for looking through the game and leaving a comment!









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Thu Mar 10 2011 10:26AM | MsgID: 14148579


Originally posted by: "Ihaveagirlfriend"

I had a loss last night against Russell Granat :(

[1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 Bf5 4. cxd5 Bxb1 5. Qa4+ Nbd7 6. Rxb1 Nxd5 7. e4 N5b6
8. Qa5 e6 9. b4 Bd6 10. Rb3 c6 11. Bd2 Qe7 12. Bc3 f6 13. Qh5+ g6 14. Qh4 e5
15. Be2 O-O 16. dxe5 Nxe5 17. O-O Rae8 18. Re1 Nxf3+ 19. Bxf3 Be5 20. Bd2 Rd8
21. Bh6 Rfe8 22. g3 Rd4 23. a3 Red8 24. Be3 R4d7 25. Bg4 Rd3 26. Bc5 Qc7 27.
Be6+ Kg7 28. f4 Rxb3 29. fxe5 Rf3 30. Bd6 Rxd6 31. exd6 Qxd6 32. Bg4 Qd4+ 33.
Kh1 Re3 34. Rxe3 Qxe3 35. e5 Qxe5 36. Bf3 Nd5 37. g4 Qa1+ 38. Kg2 Nf4+ 39. Kf2
Qb2+ 40. Kf1 Qc1+ 41. Kf2 Qd2+ 42. Kf1 Ne6 43. Qg3 Qf4]




Was 10.Rb3 an attempt to swing the rook to the Kingside? Likewise, Bd2-Bc3?
Looks a bit premature and seemed to tie the pieces up. It's probably too obvious to say getting the Bf1 out and castling first and then seeing where to stick the pieces. Looks like you were maybe trying to do too much in the late opening early middlegame phase.







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Thu Mar 10 2011 10:19AM | MsgID: 14148564


29..Nb6
Wow, that is a very subtle way of winning a pawn!

I agree that computers evaluation of endgames not always too accurate.







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Fri Mar 4 2011 9:30AM | MsgID: 14128318


Originally posted by: "blackcrowman"

White again & Birds again tricky even the exchange up but enjoyed the last move!



Well played... your Nc6 in the opening was pretty funny too 😊

As black I drew a game on Tuesday in an evening League match against Philip Tozer who is about the same grade as me and who has beaten me before. The game was tense and close to equal the whole way through.

But I've analyzed it with Rybka and there is one thing I'm unsure about.

First though here is the game:

[[1. g3 c5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 b6 4. Bg2 Bb7 5. O-O Nf6 6. b3 Be7 7. Bb2 d6 8. e3 Nbd7 9. d4 cxd4 10. exd4 O-O 11. Nbd2 Qc7 12. Qe2 Rfe8 13. Rac1 Bf8 14. Rfe1 Rac8 15. Qd3 Qb8 16. a3 d5 17. Ne5 dxc4 18. bxc4 Bxg2 19. Kxg2 Qb7+ 20. f3 Rcd8 21. Nxd7 Nxd7 22. Ne4 h6 23. Qc3 e5 24. d5 f5 25. Nf2 b5 26. Qb3 Rb8 27. Nd3 bxc4 28. Qxb7 Rxb7 29. Rxc4 e4 30. fxe4 fxe4 31. Bc1 Rb5 32. Rcxe4 Rxe4 33. Rxe4 Rxd5 34. Nb4 Rd1 35. Be3 a5 36. Nc6 Bxa3 37. Nxa5 Nf6 38. Rd4 Rb1 39. Nc4 Be7 40. h3 Rb3]]

Rybka points out that 29...Nb6! would have won a pawn for me, because after 30.Rc2 Nxd5 31.Nxe5 Rb3! wins the a3 pawn since white must defend against Ne3+. But after 32.Rce2 Bxa3 33.Bxa3 Rxa3 Rybka evaluates this position:








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as only half a pawn better for black and =+. But I don't really see why this is the case - the extra pawn it seems to me gives white a clear advantage.

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Thu Feb 24 2011 3:32PM | MsgID: 14101604


S Crow vs M Butt 127

White again & Birds again tricky even the exchange up but enjoyed the last move!

[[1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 e6 4.b3 Bd6 5.Bb2 Qe7 6.Be2 Nbd7 7.Ne5 b6 8.Nc6 Qf8 9.Be5 Bb7 10.Bxd6 Qxd6 11.Nd4 a6 12.O-O c5 13.Nf3 h6 14.a4 O-O 15.g3 Rfe8 16.d4 Ne4 17.Bd3 Ndf6 18.Ne5 Bc6 19.Qe2 a5 20.Nxc6 Qxc6 21.Bb5 Qd6 22.Bxe8 Rxe8 23.Nd2 Qe7 24.Nxe4 Nxe4 25.Qd3 Qf6 26.Rad1 Qf5 27.dxc5 bxc5 28.Qb5 Rf8 29.Qxa5 Qh3 30.Qe1 f5 31.Rf3 g5 32.Qf1 Qh5 33.Qg2 g4 34.Rff1 Rf7 35.Rd3 Rh7 36.c4 Nf6 37.cxd5 Nxd5 38.Rxd5 exd5 39.Qxd5+ Rf7 40.e4 Kg7 41.Qe5+ Kh7 42.Qxc5 Qg6 43.e5 h5 44.Qd6 Qg7 45.Rd1 h4 46.e6 Ra7 47.Qd7]] 1-0 Resigns

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